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2018-03-07 NSPRM - Plato - Parmenides (hyp5) - No Distinctions

Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp5 Sections: 159b-160b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, KevinG, Eldar 0:00:30 warm-up / pre-discussion 0:08:30 start hyp5 P1 He is stressing at opening of the 5th that the 4th hypothesis is very clear (skip about 48 minutes.. I took notes, then lost them, ugh.) In any duality, how did that first distinction arise? Difference Pierre with JulieH: Could anything be engineered without the existence of numbers? Of a circle / radii? Is there any universe under which they could *not* exist? Thus, they must have some mode of existence. Is the Self One? Do you have a Self (or are a Self)? Does it have parts? No. So it has no parts. Just like a pure One. Is your Self independent of all others? And each one of those is separate and distinct? What do these questions do to you? Is it possible there could be one Self, even though there are many individual selves? 0:59:30 Picking up with P14 (159e) What is the relation between ideas and selves in hyp5? Where would you locate Like and Unlike in the 5th, given what we've said? Neither Like nor Unlike are inherent in the (other) selves. He is linking ideas in selves. But this leads to contradicti

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