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2018-06-11 NSPRM - Plato - Parmenides (134a-e) - Neither Will the Mastership of Those Gods Rule Over Us

Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 130a-e (P38-P51) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS [There are 2 diagrams today. For diagram 1, Pierre added more to his 2nd diagram from our June 1st session.] We read from 134A (P38) to 134E (P51) in Plato's Parmenides . Topics touched on Initial chit-chat about Trump's latest antics at the summit. Barbara's question at 129b about this Self Regina's question about P42 - all classes of Self? or just upper? This leads to a long discussion which included myself, our ultimately deciding that P42 refers only to the ideas (i.e. upper world), not both upper and lower. 1:04:20 P44 PG: Why does it follow that we cannot know the ideas, given that we do not participate of Self-Knowledge? (diagram 2)? Diagram 2: Pierre writes: "We do not participate in Self Knowledge, for if we did, these would be a part participating and a part not participating." And below, he draws a stick figure participating in Self Knowledge to small, medium, and great degrees (none completely 100% though). P45-P51. P51 is the 5th hypothesis. Barbara's question 1:18 back to Trump More Info The NS Parmenides Study Group The text we use the most: Plato

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