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2018-06-15 NSPRM - Plato - Parmenides (135c-138a,127e-128b) - What Then Will You Do in Relation to Philosophy?

Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 135c-138a,127e,128a-b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, JulieH, Regina, Eldar, JeffS Our Parmenides study group continues now after the end of the "master argument". Some initial chit-chat and then we start in around 0:07:00. Is Socrates 'stung'? Parmenides sees Socrates 'impulse' Curious use of 'logos' and honorific 'sauton' (thy-self). What is meant by 'gather thyself together' here? Use of 'impulse' in the Republic, as well. Using this matter of exercise (dialectic) to see the Ideas Soc after P56: 'anything else that exists': incorrect P57: 'Self' or 'aforementioned'? P58: Is Parmenides correcting Socrates? How correct was Zeno? What is Socrates' problem? Why does he lose it and resort to a 'red-herring' argument (character of Parmenides and Zeno)? Why did Plato characterize Socrates' teacher (Parmenides) this way? And the others? None of them go on to be philosophers. More Info The NS Parmenides Study Group The text we use the most: Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.

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