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2015-10-27 NSPRM Parmenides plg - Socrates Jumps: The Beings Experience Both Likeness and Unlikeness

Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 135b 135c 135d 135e 136a 136b 136c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieG, Bradley, Brian - Reviewing. We went over last time: - A certain genus for each idea and a certain Ousia - and you gave a definition of Ousia: to perceive the intelligibility in the nature of reflection - So if we applied that to the passage at 135B.. - The idea of continuation is essential - Collect THY self together (the honorific) - /Exercise/ yourself - So let's define The Beautiful, The Just, The Good - DC's question about the order of these two studies: are they sequential? or concurrent? - comparison with Th. Taylor - wants to re-translate (in 135c/d) the sentence, "That is because, you exercise yourself too early.." - Likeness and unlikeness among the Ideas - 135e: Socrates makes a nice jump, tho we don't see how he did it. - 136a,b,c: In this so-called method, he does not mention participation. Interesting? - Is it a circle? Does it proceed down, and return? Must the subject participate in the object? Or (to put it in terms of model/copy), must there be a dynamic between the model and the copy? (Yes). Is there equally a dynamic between the co

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