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2016-08-16 NSPRM Parmenides - What is the Relation of Soul to Self? Help from the Phaedo day 2

Stephanos sections (Phaedo): 79c 79d 81c 81d 114b 114c 114d 114e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Eldar, Kevin, Josh, JeffS PG's opening question (see diagram): Is the Theseus myth in the beginning of the Phaedo the controlling feature for understanding the dialogue? Same question, now re-formulated as an ANALOGY, with a blank to fill in: IF.. In the Theseus myth (at the beginning of the Phaedo), there are 14 + theseus who go to Crete to destroy the Minotaur, and he returns triumphantly to be King.. THEN.. (so also) in the Phaedo dialogue itself, there are 14 people mentioned by name, + Socrates, and they are out to "destroy death", and return as ... _____________________? (Fill in the analogy) And that's what we're on.. Every (Platonic) dialogue, the beginning always contains the essence of the entirety. E.g., First paragraph of the Republic: same thing. Therefore what is going on in the Parmenides? See, that's a dialogue -- like the Symposium -- which is recollected many years later -- same thing. Barbara's translation of Phaedo 79C-D (see "PDF" link) - moving from the 2nd to the 1st hypothesis - word 'soul' only used with body in 79cd How does he describe 'soul' at 81cd? - ev

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