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2017-10-24 NSPRM - Plato - Parmenides - hyp8 - An Impoverished Self

Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp8 (8th hypothesis) Sections: 164b-165e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina The Puzzles in the 8th 164e P11 Pierre emphasizes: watch the "some" Two groups among the selves: even and odd P13 What does "IN selves" mean? Why does he use δόξει (doxei) and φαίνεται (phainetai)? P14 a phantom of equality P15 P16 The smaller is surfaced again It starts with "something" Barbara reads P17-P24 17:55 Reviewing: P13 introduces "smallest", and "IN selves" Regina 24:40 PG: Where does P13 go? Back to P8. So let's look at 8. P8 Looking at the selves, we can't make the judgement about which is smaller or larger. Now back to P13 30:27 Does this mean that those people in the 8th are making judgements among themselves.. DC: Like the allegory of the cave and the upper world in The Republic Looking in, it's all intelligible (though not necessarily from within) 34:15 E.g., Does it follow that different ex-Christians would see themselves in different groups? (Those who have left the 4th hyp, i.e., belief-systems). But those distinctions would be now without logos and not meaningful. 38:15 DC: Is he showing that (from within the p.o.v. of the 8th) it is impossible

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