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2017-11-28 NSPRM - Plato - Parmenides - hyp2 - The 'Not-Ones': Beauty, Truth, etc

Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 146b-147d Attendees: Pierre, Nancy, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, CathyW [Before this recording starts, the group was talking about the protesters of Trump being cited and incarcerated, and Pierre said something along the lines that we have to find a way to protest. I cut off that part because the pocket rustling of the recorder was way too annoying and would take too much time to fix.] Why does he have to show the One and the Many in the 2nd hyp? We want to see that among us ! (i.e., how does that relate to Self?) And what does it mean for it to be in the 2nd hyp? P86/146d - What gets the difference? P87-P95 (146e) P95: Attempt at re-translation: 'Will they not be with respect to themselves different by not participating of the different?' Before different was a substantive. Now it is participable -- It now takes the same status as Ousia or The One. 'The Different's status is raised. It is now something that can be participated. ..to P102 (147b) DC: Why not parallel structure? P102: One relates to the not Ones as Self relates to selves. [Me: How does he conclude that from what came before? What IS this same relationship, th

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