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2018-09-21 NSPRM - Proclus - Theology of Plato (Book 1, Chapter 18) - The Self-Sufficiency, Immutability, and Sameness of Subsistence of the Gods

Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: book01;chap18 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar Synopsis Pierre leads the NS Parmenides morning study group through chapter 18 of book 1 of Proclus' Theology of Plato (*). The basic 3 things Proclus is covering here are the 1. Self-sufficiency, 2. Immutability, and 3. Sameness of subsistence of the Gods. Highlights Plato and Proclus: Reasoning on Causes: What are the conditions necessary for a cause? (We moderns don't reason this way.) Hellenic Metaphysics: concerned 1st with conditions, then their causes. What, therefore, are the conditions for the Gods? What maintains the sameness across them Subsistence and Consubsistence - hypo-stasis (literally, 'standing under' or '(proper) subordinate place', maybe?) The condition for having sameness is that you first had to have difference. More Info (*) Proclus' Theology of Plato (Thomas Taylor translation): Volume Eight in the Thomas Taylor series, ISBN-10: 978-1898910-077, as published by Prometheus Trust and available in the UK through them directly , or in the USA through Opening Mind Associates . The NS Parmenides Study Group Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Transla

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